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why dont i ever hear good things about the twelfth house? am i destined for sorrow and all that crap? i have sun conjunct moon conjunct pluto in libra in the twelfth house. using the koch system. i have leo on the midhaeven, the sun rules leo and mine is in the twelfth. i think i should just end my life now since i guess i will never get an established position. what the fuck? someone help.

Your post is so 'typical' twelfth house! The brooding shadow of Saturn could come out into the Leonine sun, as perhaps a serious actor, or in a position where discipline and responsibility could be of benefit to others. I suggest you appreciate the qualities you have to work with and make the most of them, however we all think that others somehow have it better than we do. Whatever trines you have are the perfect avenue to utilise your unique talents.

"Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.
And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.
And how else can it be?
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.
Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's oven?
And is not the lute that soothes your spirit, the very wood that was hollowed with knives?
When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy.
When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight.
Some of you say, "Joy is greater than sorrow," and others say, "Nay, sorrow is the greater."
But I say unto you, they are inseparable.
Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed.
Verily you are suspended like scales between your sorrow and your joy.
Only when you are empty are you at standstill and balanced.
When the treasure-keeper lifts you to weigh his gold and his silver, needs must your joy or your sorrow rise or fall."

~THE PROPHET~

Hello, that piece indeed suits the state of mind that can come from that poorly understood house of, above all else, trancendance. Thank you. The only trine I do have is Mars in the leo/ninth to neptune/sag in the second. I always wish I could be less passive - agressive, but that trine makes it SO easy to need not be direct with people.